User:Bry/talk archive (2008-05-05)
- This is an archive of messages left on User talk:Bry from March 31, 2008, to April 30, 2008.
Hey Bry, just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you've put into this. We should be ready to launch soon! --Agent Lex 13:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Bry, I did plan on trying to surf through YouTube and get as much old show info as I could ... I was eyeballing next week as a good available time, however. Thanks for thinking of me. --MitchO 19:33, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
I can change the directory settings, but only within the wiki directory. So I've made the images directory writable now, and I'll upload an image to test. I also wanted to test out the thumbnailing, since that depends on server settings that I don't have control over, so thanks for noticing that. --Agent Lex (talk - contribs) 06:22, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
- I don't think the captcha was ever on uploading files. At the moment it should be on:
- New user registration
- Anonymous editing, if a new linkis posted - might change this to all anonymous editing
- What the Captcha people describe as "password hacking attempts" - so I guess if you mess up your password about 5 times.
- Not on image uploads, since I don't think those are likely to be botted. You may disagree. --Agent Lex (talk - contribs) 06:30, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
- I've given moderators protection rights. Most importantly, it means you can edit the main page now, if you want to keep the flashmob updated or just have news.
- I noticed that there's an editing help link when you go to edit. You're good at writing up this documentation, mind writing a little something on basic wiki formatting there? I think I can link to it from above the edit box, once it's in a usable form.
I love the Wiki so far. I read the discussion about the Fan Projects page, and you guys are covering all the points and pros and cons that I would think need to be covered too. It's a tough question, and it's too bad there isn't a more clear-cut best answer.
Here's my two cents about the Fan Projects page -- I think the Videos category that Lex set up (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Videos) is perfect, and on a page like this you could list as many fan-made videos as you felt like adding without having to worry about notability. As long as someone felt like adding it, that should be notable enough, I think. Having the videos grouped by their songs is, I think, the perfect way to keep it organized too. You could also add entries for "Spiff/Videos", "JoCoPro/Videos" and maybe... I forget the name of the ukelele girl who has a couple of videos, although if that meant that information needed to maintained in more than one place, forget it.
Back on the actual "Fan Projects" page itself, you could link to the Videos category page under Videos, which will take care of the vast majority of videos, and then rather than having "machinima" and "other videos" categories, you could change it to a single "Noteworthy" category, which has a link to my videos, JoCoPro's videos, and things like Emily's videos (perhaps even adding a bit of test to say why they're noteworthy). With this system, users could get to every single "Code Monkey" video ever made if they wanted by going to the Videos category page, but they can also see which ones have made a bigger impact in the JoCo world by checking out the "Noteworthy" ones. Since that list will be much smaller, it should be easier to be the notability police for it, I'd hope.
I doubt the "art" and "fiction" and "games" categories will ever get that large, so I think the way they're presented now is great.
Lastly, I would put the "Contests" info at the bottom of the page. In most cases, that list will be links to contests that have already passed and so aren't so vital that they should be the first thing the user sees. The user came to the page to see fan projects, not months-old contests they can no longer enter. :)
As for additions to the Wiki itself, when I edit Wikis at work, I'm used to having a link to a pop-up page that shows me all the Wiki formatting I can use for my text. I don't see one for this Wiki. The editing box itself has the buttons across the top, which helps, but doesn't show me what I should do to make a bulletted list or different heading sizes, etc.
Also, on each songs page, there's a section called "Themes". I can't figure out what is expected to be put here. What's a theme?
How do I add a link to one of my videos on the song page for that video? I mean, I know how to add a link, but is there some sort of special place to put it? Is that what goes under "themes"?
where are the changes I made?
I just made a bunch of updates to song pages, but when I go back there, the updates aren't being displayed. I can see in the History that the changes were made though. Do they need to be approved or something before they get displayed?
Hey Spiff, I've tried to explain what's happened on your user talk page. Basically, the videos have all been moved to the Videos page for each song. We've decided to organise things like each song's infopage. The links are all still there, just in the appropriate section now. :) --Lex (talk - contribs) 16:44, 24 April 2008 (EDT)