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To Do

  • Would it be possible to move all the old to-do's to an archive page?
  • Major content that needs to be added:
    • Info on other collaborators - Kerrin, Len Peralta, The Doifter, Molly
    • Shows stuff:
      • Info on older shows (setlists being the hardest to find)
      • Also, a real show template (infobox and everything)
      • Perhaps a way to link songs to what shows they were played at
    • Links to interviews (podcasts and otherwise) -- Mason's got a start on that
  • From old to-do list (still unfinished stuff):
    • Deletion policy
    • Page on Creative Commons
    • A page to discuss songs
    • All the songs from "The Aftermath" -- could add links to JoCo-in-a-Bubble
    • Continue work on List of people mentioned in songs.
    • "Downloads" page? Getting the store links to work would be pretty cool, I have to say...
    • Some kind of automation expert. A lot of this stuff should be handled by bots...

--Bry 03:42, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

To Do (old)

(At least the ones I can think of off the top of my head...)

  • Finalize the song template (and the navigation template from lyrics / tabs pages)
This looks good. Not immutable, but I like how it looks. --Bry 23:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
    • What other pages should be attached to each song (just duplicate the ones from the song details pages? User-submitted content like videos, etc., would be good; the They Might Be Giants wiki has an "Interpretations" page for every song, but JoCo lyrics don't tend to be obscure in the same way, so maybe that's not as necessary. A "Downloads" page?)
  • Add templates for album, shows, possibly lyrics and tabs
Still like a real show template, perhaps with set list and everything. --Bry 23:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I'd like a compendium of interviews he's done
I'd still like this
I have put some interviews in as a category - someone just needs to put a link somewhere to access it -mason
  • "Rarities" and other things not linked on the Songs page (e.g. "One More Score," "You Oughta Know")
These have been added, at least the ones I can think of.
  • Add all manner of content (as suggested above, figuring out how to standardize the pages should probably come first).

--Bry 01:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Other ideas [submitted by jinx]:

  • A chronology? List of events, album/song dates, concerts, and so on, so that if people think "I went to such-and-such a concert, when was that?" there's a quick place to go to find out. See This Day in JoCo --Agent Lex 20:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Some set of links to items that are related as inspirations to the songs, like wikipedia pages on George Plimpton and Benoit Mandelbrot and so on.
This is now in progress: List of people mentioned in songs --Bry 23:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
  • For Aftermath,links to the recording sessions with notes on what parts are laid down in each session.
  • List of non-JoCo songs covered in various concerts? (Or are there copyright issues involved?)
This seems to be in progress at the bottom of the Discography -- I am not a lawyer, but I think copyright shouldn't be an issue... --Bry 23:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Bry again:

  • Page on Creative Commons (suggested by Mason)
  • Album track list (albumnav template) at bottom of song pages Rough version going on the TAW albums and Smoking Monkey --Agent Lex 20:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Real deletion policy (for non-notable things, etc.)
  • Discussion page for songs, as opposed to talk page about song wiki? I mean, discussion like, "I like the demo of Soterios Johnson better, but I like the lyrics of the TAW release," not "I think the release date is entered wrong."

--Bry 23:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Moved this list to discussion --Agent Lex 13:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Mason:

  • Page Titles (ie - the one that appears in the title bar of your browser, dont have "Jonathan Coulton" in them - which they should as it will help with google search etc. finding these pages when people search for jonathan coulton.
    • Adding these would be a real pain at this point, since we'd have to change the name of the wiki from JoCopedia to something like "Jonathan Coulton wiki". The Jonathan Coulton page should still come up, and of course any page with the words "Jonathan Coulton" in. --Agent Lex 13:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Could we, however, include a tagline or a slogan or something that includes the words "Jonathan Coulton" on every page, like the line at the bottom of every Wikipedia article, "Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a U.S. registered 501(c)(3) tax-deductible nonprofit charity"? [For an example, here's a random page. This time I literally went to Wikipedia and clicked "Random article".] --Bry 20:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Managed to find a way to add it to the title of the main page, after all! --Agent Lex 21:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It very much appears as though Wikipedia's "name", at least internally, is "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" -- which means that it appears in the title bar of each page, and every article page has "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" on it. Would it be possible to call this something like "JoCopedia, the Jonathan Coulton wiki" or something? --Bry 23:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I finally managed that. It was easier than I thought, but there was NO documentation for it! --Agent Lex 19:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Is there a way to keep track of how many times a song was played in concert? My guess would be count the number of pages in the Category:Shows that link back to a Category:Song page. If we set up a flag on the Show that indicated a full Setlist was there, we could even come up with a percentage of times that song was played in concert! The stat geek in me is interested, but I'm wondering if other people would be as well, and whether or not it's something we can do. I just like my data well rounded ... :D --MitchO 15:05, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

New Skin

What does everyone think? --Agent Lex 23:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Lex but YUCK. --MitchO 23:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

April Fools joke is over. Glad you enjoyed it ;) --Agent Lex 12:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Time Zone

All due respect to our illustrious overlord, I mean protector ... but shouldn't the JoCo Wiki be on the same time zone as JoCo? I noticed that we appear to be on GMT. I would think the bulk of the users are going to be American. Sorry Lex, but it's true :) --MitchO 15:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The wiki actually defaults to UTC, which happens to correspond to GMT. I'll see if I can change the time zone once I'm home from work. --Agent Lex 15:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

  • ETA: Time zone has changed to EST/EDT, which should be reflected in the following signature: --Agent Lex 14:45, 3 April 2008 (EDT)