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("close my eyes and it's all ready. Here on Earth they'll wonder..."?)
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::: Cool, good to hear. I'll go ahead and make the same changes in the [[The Future Soon/Tabs|Tabs]] section. (Yeah, I think it could go either way with "couple skate" and "couples' skate", depending on what JoCo himself says.) (And darn, that was me at the top who forgot to sign his name.) Thanks, Thomast and Bry! || [[User:Wesley|Wesley]] 01:19, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::: Cool, good to hear. I'll go ahead and make the same changes in the [[The Future Soon/Tabs|Tabs]] section. (Yeah, I think it could go either way with "couple skate" and "couples' skate", depending on what JoCo himself says.) (And darn, that was me at the top who forgot to sign his name.) Thanks, Thomast and Bry! || [[User:Wesley|Wesley]] 01:19, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::::I've changed the smart quotes, which is the only change I've made that I'm sure about, for I've done a lot of things that are real, real judgment calls. I said "And I'm '''all''' alone during '''couples'''' skate", "'''She'll''' eye me suspiciously" (no "and"), "'''And she'll''' scream and try to run" (instead of "she will scream"), and most radically, during the pre-bridge chorus, "close my eyes and it's '''all ready'''" -> "Here on Earth they'll wonder" (starting a new clause). I'm not sure I even agree with that (granted, "when my heart is breaking I can close my eyes and it's '''already''' / Here on Earth they'll wonder" isn't grammatical, but there's certainly little reason to believe that wasn't what was intended). But it's clever, and it would be grammatical, and I'm going to pretend it's the lyric because it makes me happy to think so. --[[User:Bry|Bry]] 01:29, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::::I've changed the smart quotes, which is the only change I've made that I'm sure about, for I've done a lot of things that are real, real judgment calls. I said "And I'm '''all''' alone during '''couples'''' skate", "'''She'll''' eye me suspiciously" (no "and"), "'''And she'll''' scream and try to run" (instead of "she will scream"), and most radically, during the pre-bridge chorus, "close my eyes and it's '''all ready'''" -> "Here on Earth they'll wonder" (starting a new clause). I'm not sure I even agree with that (granted, "when my heart is breaking I can close my eyes and it's '''already''' / Here on Earth they'll wonder" isn't grammatical, but there's certainly little reason to believe that wasn't what was intended). But it's clever, and it would be grammatical, and I'm going to pretend it's the lyric because it makes me happy to think so. --[[User:Bry|Bry]] 01:29, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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I have to admit that I get a little bit of an uncomfortable feeling changing the lyrics--even the "all alone" part I first posted about. Jonathan did post those lyrics on the website himself at some point, so he must have at least read over them once. I think we should probably err on the side of caution and let the original lyrics stay when it's too close to call. Having said that:
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* Have a listen to the demo version of the song--he seems to be separating the word "couple" from the next s by quite a bit. http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/The%20Future%20Soon%20(Demo). Very hard to tell, and impossible to tell with complete confidence.
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* I think Jonathan might actually say "'''and she'll''' eye me suspiciously"; take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEEDa9Mej8. Again, in this case, it's possible to interpret it either way.
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* You're totally right about "'''and she'll scream''' and try to run", because in the demo version, he says "'''she will scream''' and try to run"--they're two different versions of the line! I'll make a note about it in the wiki, but we should use the change you made, since it's the "official" version of the song.
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I'll go and make those changes now. I hope you don't mind the changing-back of some of those changes :S And if you think one of the changes should actually stay, go ahead and change it back while we hunt for more evidence one way or another. In fact, just while doing that I dug up an awesome acoustic demo version of The Future Soon! (That'll be going on the main page very shortly :P
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[[User:Wesley|Wesley]] 02:22, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

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Riddle me this:

My ears hear "And I'm all alone during couple skate" The info page in the store (and everything in this wiki) reads "And I'm alone during couple skate"

Obviously, and without a doubt, we should use the lyrics actually in the song. But I'm not going insane for hearing that, right?

I agree. That's pretty definitely what's sung. This live performance has a good facial close up during that line, and that looks like two words to me (rather than "ah-ah-lone," for which that subtle mouth closure wouldn't be there). Of course, I would've also sworn to it being "couples' skate," so what do I know? ~ Thomast 18:25, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
I have always thought the words were "And I'm all alone...." I think it's a safe change to make, and I'll make it -- if someone disagrees, he or she can change it back. --Bry 01:14, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
Cool, good to hear. I'll go ahead and make the same changes in the Tabs section. (Yeah, I think it could go either way with "couple skate" and "couples' skate", depending on what JoCo himself says.) (And darn, that was me at the top who forgot to sign his name.) Thanks, Thomast and Bry! || Wesley 01:19, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
I've changed the smart quotes, which is the only change I've made that I'm sure about, for I've done a lot of things that are real, real judgment calls. I said "And I'm all alone during couples' skate", "She'll eye me suspiciously" (no "and"), "And she'll scream and try to run" (instead of "she will scream"), and most radically, during the pre-bridge chorus, "close my eyes and it's all ready" -> "Here on Earth they'll wonder" (starting a new clause). I'm not sure I even agree with that (granted, "when my heart is breaking I can close my eyes and it's already / Here on Earth they'll wonder" isn't grammatical, but there's certainly little reason to believe that wasn't what was intended). But it's clever, and it would be grammatical, and I'm going to pretend it's the lyric because it makes me happy to think so. --Bry 01:29, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

(replying, but don't want the indenting to get too crazy)

I have to admit that I get a little bit of an uncomfortable feeling changing the lyrics--even the "all alone" part I first posted about. Jonathan did post those lyrics on the website himself at some point, so he must have at least read over them once. I think we should probably err on the side of caution and let the original lyrics stay when it's too close to call. Having said that:

  • You're totally right about "and she'll scream and try to run", because in the demo version, he says "she will scream and try to run"--they're two different versions of the line! I'll make a note about it in the wiki, but we should use the change you made, since it's the "official" version of the song.

I'll go and make those changes now. I hope you don't mind the changing-back of some of those changes :S And if you think one of the changes should actually stay, go ahead and change it back while we hunt for more evidence one way or another. In fact, just while doing that I dug up an awesome acoustic demo version of The Future Soon! (That'll be going on the main page very shortly :P

Wesley 02:22, 30 April 2008 (EDT)