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::::::Oh, actually, I just noticed that anonymous users on here also have the "<tt>createpage</tt>" right, as well! that should definitely be revoked too. -[[User:Apollo|Apollo]] ([[User talk:Apollo|colloquia!]]) 16:28, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
 
::::::Oh, actually, I just noticed that anonymous users on here also have the "<tt>createpage</tt>" right, as well! that should definitely be revoked too. -[[User:Apollo|Apollo]] ([[User talk:Apollo|colloquia!]]) 16:28, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
 
:::::::Bry said on the forums he would be back "soon". Removing <tt>createpage</tt> for IPs would be effective in stopping most spam, but there's occasional one-time anons that create pages for shows so there's no easy answer. Even so I'm leaning towards revoking that right. It's not my decision to make however. [[User:Boring Manager Rob|Boring Manager Rob]] 21:31, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
 
:::::::Bry said on the forums he would be back "soon". Removing <tt>createpage</tt> for IPs would be effective in stopping most spam, but there's occasional one-time anons that create pages for shows so there's no easy answer. Even so I'm leaning towards revoking that right. It's not my decision to make however. [[User:Boring Manager Rob|Boring Manager Rob]] 21:31, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
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::::::::I've been following your discussion and I'm in favour of revoking <tt>createtalk</tt> and <tt>createpage</tt> rights for anonymous users. (I'm also in favour of reinstating CAPTCHA; I suspect the decline in spam following its removal could be attributed to other factors.) Now that we have more active mods, I think there's an opportunity to do some interesting things around here. Perhaps we could move this conversation to a more "central" location, like [[JoCopedia_talk:Moderators]]? I'd like your suggestions to result in changes, so the discussion should be as public as possible. --[[User:Sara|Sara]] 23:33, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

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A note of appreciation

Thank you for cleaning up all this crazy bot spam. I had totally forgotten about it after the couple days I tried (and failed) to stem the tide. ConspicuousCompiler 20:29, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Hey, it's the least I can do for JoCo. It's not like I have a life or anything. Hopefully a permanent solution to this spam will present itself soon. Boring Manager Rob 20:35, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
I happen to have solved this problem over in a wiki I manage, but only by literally turning off the ability to add links in pages. Spam pages always contain links, so their spambot submissions get rejected and the bots don't return. But the cost is not being able to add (new) links yourself to other sites. You could, of course, create a template prior to the blocking which allows for URLs, then invoke the template, if you don't feel that's too limiting. This fix requires enhancing the wgSpamRegexp setting in LocalSettings.php to include any attempt at http links: "https?:" 99.46.136.183 00:42, 26 September 2011 (EDT)
Well...while that might cut some of the spam, the majority of the recent attacks have nothing to do with links at all, instead replacing pages with random nonsense (example) so it seems a bit unnecessary to disable links. The hardest-hit pages have been temporarily protected, but there's nothing I can do about new pages being created other than deleting them. The man who has the power to do something major about this such as disabling anonymous editing (just an example, not saying this is a good idea) and knows more about this than I do is Bry but he hasn't been around that much. Boring Manager Rob 16:34, 26 September 2011 (EDT)
Over at TMBW, anonymous edits trigger a CAPTCHA, maybe that could be a solution? I notice there's no such protection on here. It seems like a good idea. -Apollo (colloquia!) 18:51, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
CAPTCHA was apparently ineffective. Boring Manager Rob 20:24, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
Weird! Well, I haven't been paying very much attention to recent changes lately, but if what the anons are doing is still creating nonsense talk pages, then I think a good thing would be to have your bureaucrat revoke the "createtalk" right from anonymous users. That wouldn't handle spam on pre-existing pages, but that's a bit easier to manage for the time being. I think the only bureaucrat you have has been inactive for a while, but maybe someone could contact him? -Apollo (colloquia!) 21:42, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
Oh, actually, I just noticed that anonymous users on here also have the "createpage" right, as well! that should definitely be revoked too. -Apollo (colloquia!) 16:28, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
Bry said on the forums he would be back "soon". Removing createpage for IPs would be effective in stopping most spam, but there's occasional one-time anons that create pages for shows so there's no easy answer. Even so I'm leaning towards revoking that right. It's not my decision to make however. Boring Manager Rob 21:31, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
I've been following your discussion and I'm in favour of revoking createtalk and createpage rights for anonymous users. (I'm also in favour of reinstating CAPTCHA; I suspect the decline in spam following its removal could be attributed to other factors.) Now that we have more active mods, I think there's an opportunity to do some interesting things around here. Perhaps we could move this conversation to a more "central" location, like JoCopedia_talk:Moderators? I'd like your suggestions to result in changes, so the discussion should be as public as possible. --Sara 23:33, 28 September 2011 (EDT)